I mean, there's two likely outcomes if you're robbing drug dealers. POOR: Well, let me ask you this - do you feel like we're being unfair trying to make you do this? Yes, he was quiet, but he was always present. Earlonne is of white ethnicity and American nationality. And I'm playing this because it's about knowing where the line is when you're interviewing prisoners and sometimes to have to ask something that's going to make them uncomfortable. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. Earlonne was both host and inmate, but he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. E WOODS: I think the mentality is more of crime to you is a job. I was on some - I would like to say other words, but I'm holding my (laughter) E WOODS: (Laughter) I'm on the radio. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . TREVOR WOODS: You know, so Tyler was out there trying to grow up on his own, trying to be something that he didn't know nothing about. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. GROSS: Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor are the co-creators, co-producers and co-hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. When Earlonne was in, I was probably in there 40-plus hours a week, and I'm not a masochist. And I got out in '95. It's a job. But yeah, I can't. He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. And you really get a better understanding of your impact that you've personally had on people in society. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. So even though I'm hearing stuff and then I'm talking to him, he playing - he downplaying it. So how do you keep going? So I think what kept me sane is that I had the philosophy where, I am going to live to the best of my ability every day that I have left on this Earth no matter where I'm at. SHAPIRO: Nigel Poor told us that when Earlonne Woods came back POOR: He was walking with a lot of air in his step. But it was just - it was spectacular. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life. So I gave him, you know, a handshake with as much emotion as I could muster POOR: Appropriately. Ear Hustle was a finalist for the 2020 Pulitzer Prize for Audio Reporting, and won a Alfred I. duPontColumbia University Award in 2021. I actually oddly enjoy being in there. Earlonne holds an American nationality and white ethnicity. Don't be out there doing no robberies, none of that stuff. [3] According to The Economist, by this time Woods was one of the most famous incarcerated people in the US. POOR: And it's going to be a little bit hard. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. And the phone rang in the media lab. He and Nigel also co-wrote This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book inspired by the podcast and published by Crown/Random House. Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. Others are typical and comfortable, never rising to celebrity status but supplying its partners with a contented existence. He's been behind bars for more than 20 years. T WOODS: One the 19 - November 19, 2013 - federal prison - we have phones, and we have emails. Earlonne Woods Wife Earlonne resides in the United States. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. You know, they get to see each other in passing. And at the end of November, Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence. And for most people - for most people inside, they just want the chance to represent the person that they are today, you know? I think the scope of the number of people that could possibly listen to this, I'm just really nervous about that. GROSS: OK, so that was a little more than five years ago that Tyler was killed. There's a story you did about how people like you from the outside who come in to volunteer - because you started at San Quentin volunteering teaching photography before you started doing the podcast Ear Hustle. Why am I doing this? So right now there would be a problem with me going back to see him because I'm currently on parole. POOR: I can let Earlonne answer that one. So this is JERRY BROWN: It all goes to this point that something very bad happens, and people will say, OK, now we're putting you in jail for a very long time. [3], Woods completed his General Educational Development in prison, as well as vocational courses such as auto mechanics. Kristi Tjaden. "[12] Woods later traveled to thank Brown and interview him for the podcast. And so to me, that meant he was a very good observer. In November 2018, Woods' sentence was commuted by California governor Jerry Brown. He is 49 years old. Earlonne Woods prefers to keep his personal life private, so he has not disclosed any information about his marital status. He was sentenced to 31 years to life for attempted robbery in 1999. ERIN: I don't - I don't know. Like, my mother used to bring him. So what - one of the things that I've really taken away from being in prison is that I've gotten an incredible glimpse into what it means to be a man and what men deal with. What was your reaction when you found out? You know, at that particular moment, in that mindset - like today, am I OK with that? When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. So you recorded interviews with Trevor and Tyra talking about how difficult it is to maintain a relationship with your child when you're incarcerated and how difficult it is to help them stay out of trouble. Like, in the county jail, I was like, OK, I'm done with this side of life because even though our philosophy growing up was for death though - you know, meaning I'd rather be carried by six than judged by 12 - that was just the philosophy we had growing up, you know? When Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods met, Poor was a photography professor volunteering with the Prison University Project, and Woods was serving thirty-one years to life at California's San Quentin State Prison. Elevated Entertainment LLC; Host: Hard in the Paint w/Aaron Showtime Taylor. GROSS: And, Earlonne, I look forward to your interviews with people who, like you, are transitioning back into society from prison. What's it like to not care about the person who you're robbing or the person who might be killed by a stray bullet? SHAPIRO: That's Earlonne Woods from the podcast "Ear Hustle." Like, he just seemed lighter and shiny and fresh. [5] The show features interviews with inmates who share their stories and opinions on topics like cellmates, solitary confinement, race, morality, pets, religion, gangs, and family. And Trevor, your brother, speaks first. So I still had a 17-year-old mentality. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded millions of times, featured in media outlets from NPR to The New York Times, and made several best of podcast rankings. E WOODS: So on November 19, Tyler and his auntie and some other lady went to 7-Eleven to get a pack of cigarettes. And it might help you. GROSS: So Tyler's father, your brother, is still in San Quentin during the final year that you were in San Quentin. Woods has served 21 years of a 31 to life prison sentence. E WOODS: It is - they see something that I can't see. And I keep thinking, like, a week from now, Earlonne and I could be having dinner outside the prison together (laughter). Earlonne, until the end of November, was a prisoner. I get to see how they express love and tenderness and fear and frustration and how they posture and what's behind that. So in that case, I didn't dig in. I don't know. [14] In an interview with Rolling Stone, Poor said the show is "about everyday life inside a prison. E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. GROSS: We talk about the podcast and before we talk about your work together, Earlonne, I want to talk with you about life outside. And then I saw him in this awesome, orange T-shirt that had some brown in it. But if we could just talk about it and come to some understanding about what's our responsibility, what's your responsibility? And it was very hard for that to not change the way I felt about him. Tyler had missed a court appearance, so he feared that he would be locked up. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. Earlonne Woods is an American podcaster and author, best known for co-hosting and co-founding the podcast Ear Hustle in 2017, and co-authoring the book This Is Ear Hustle in 2021. It's about a writer whose friend and former mentor kills himself. And I hit the floor. And I'm always interested in people who kind of fade into the background a little bit because I suspect they could be the most interesting people in the room. POOR: Well, I would like to see more programs created that allow people inside and outside to work together as colleagues. "When. Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods are gifted storytellers, and their ability to draw intimate, authentic stories out of others is extraordinary. It was so kick-back and cool, meaning I take advantage of all these moments now. She inherits his dog, a 180-pound Great Dane, who, like her, is grieving. POOR: So I'm just going to be very blunt with you. Tyler was sent to live with extended family. You have to wear the same clothes all the time. GROSS: To stay sane in a situation like that. But the - the problem is is that a lot of the sentences are a hundred years, 200 years, 300 years. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest. His sentence was commuted yesterday. Let's get back to my interview with Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, featuring interviews with prisoners in San Quentin about their lives and what it's like to be incarcerated. After a break, we'll hear and talk about excerpts of two episodes of Ear Hustle, one about a death that was devastating for Earlonne, the other about an interview that raised serious ethical questions for Nigel. Why didn't you invite me (laughter)? Redmond O'Neal is a voice actor, Hollywood celebrity, and Star Kid from the United States. You're more looking at what you're getting out of the situation. Earlonnes estimated net worth is $657,586. I was questioning everything. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. And a chase pursued. I find it invigorating. And many people around me wasn't like that. We know because they did a whole episode on getting parole. If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin Prison about their daily lives and their personal stories. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. Earlonne stands at a height of 5 ft 7 in ( Approx1.7 m). They had left the auntie's house. 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You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? And her son had attended a party. And you've said in the past that he was always the quietest person in the room, but you could tell he was a good observer. And, you know, I pretty much raised - because my brother was locked up. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. And when you're in that moment, I think it's more of crime to people in society that commit crime. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. But the things that you do in your past do add dimension to who you are in this moment. ALEX BLUMBERG: And so a friend of Earlonne's, a volunteer at the prison, had an idea: with this spotlight on his work, and having served now two decades of his 31-to-life sentence, Earlonne should put in for a commutation -- make an official appeal to the governor, to set him free. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. A person can get certain - a certain amount of time for the crime that they commit. And they open fired on him. Woods was raised in South Los Angeles with his parents and his older brother Trevor. Earlonne became busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. So prison was more like, oh, hey, this is a place to go and continue your gang activity, continue your destructive behavior. And to hear how it happened to him and to hear that he was shot 19 times, you know - and I just try to visualize, like, what he was going through at the time he was being shot at by those officers. So I think that's very damaging. POOR: That's his obsession. GROSS: And Nigel, just as a person who's constantly interacting with inmates at San Quentin, do you want to know what they're incarcerated for, what crime they were convicted of? Earlonne has not yet revealed any information about his parents. He says, I need to speak with you. (SOUNDBITE OF STEFANO BOLLANI AND JESPER BODILSEN AND MORTEN LUND AND MARK TURNER AND BILL FRISELL'S "ALOBAR E KUDRA"). Trevor was wanted and was on the run. For the first few months after Earlonne Woods was released from San Quentin in November, his "Ear Hustle" podcast co-host Nigel Poor kept receiving photos of ice cream on her phone. And we used to do, like, healing circles. GROSS: Who - give us an example of somebody who you spoke to who had been a victim of a crime similar to the one that you committed that made you feel this, you know, sense of feeling bad for what you'd done. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods is 47. POOR: How do we tell stories and leave out that part? I'm always interested in people who - I'm quiet myself. In 2020, Ear Hustle was named a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in audio reporting the first time the . As co-host of the 2019 Third Coast Awards Ceremony, Earlonne will make his return to the "Oscars of Radio." Last year, he beamed in via video ( watch here ) after winning a 2018 Best Documentary: Honorable Mention Award as part of the Ear Hustle team. E WOODS: Hey - so I always go over to the L - I call them L7s. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. But very quickly, when we started talking about photography - I was teaching a history of photography class - that kind of melted away. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). Earlonne Woods annual salary is $61,244 on average. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. And Jerry Brown was then the governor of California. Kourtney Kellar is an American model, social media celebrity, influencer, media face, and Internet personality. And the officer came back, was like, you're too tall for that name. [3][4] In 1997, at the age of 25, he was arrested for attempted second degree robbery. How do you survive? GROSS: Yeah. T WOODS: I received an email from one of my partners. Then she started doing interviews, and then they started working together co-producing a radio show and then the podcast. WOODSON: I used to work for the captain at CIW in the program office. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. I realized that he had a really intense work ethic that matched my own and that we just really got along. Self's story opens the first episode of Ear Hustle, an engrossing new podcast out of San Quentin prison, a state facility in California. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. And, like a lot of inmates, he's been thinking about this moment for a long time. When Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods met, Nigel was a photography professor volunteering with the Prison University Project and Earlonne was serving thirty-one years to life at California's San Quentin State Prison. My first prison term, I went to jail when I was 17. That, in a nutshell, is the juxtaposition that defines Ear Hustle. E WOODS: I like my colors bright these days. And so I want to play the part where you return to ask him that difficult question. 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