Plus what are the business implications of keeping him involved in the business? She felt trapped in our marriage. I saw my h detaching after DDay 1. Speaking of the A, H 100% confirmed it was over yesterday and she is not even in my phone and when I looked skeptical, he offered it to me to check. As you can read in the thread Ive been away and feeling a lot better. Dont buy into it. It doesnt mean I accept the relationship with OW anymore than you do, but I understand why it is going on and I do have reasons to believe it is unlikely to last. Great. When we loose someone its so very normal to go into remember when mode. Dont be afraid to reach out to them to help. Divorce is the finality of the marriage. I know I cannot change my ex but I can pray for her. Keep pushing through. Get rid of it quickly. How Much Time Do You Want to Spend With Your Partner? But that is what is happening. It is meant for you and I am just the messenger. That about killed me. He got a taste of what Im thinking if D is in play the other night and he didnt like it at all and he stormed off. This feeling intensified once I realised the A had been going on for the period he was saying he was sick and sleeping, going to bed early etc. The calm before the storm kind of quiet, which weirdly makes it feels like its all been in my head and nothing happened. It is hard to negotiate when H made so many unilateral decisions and took things so far already (ie the pit that H dug himself in as Puzzled describes it). You were bang on with the pity party omg, His concept is that We move towards a divorce. This may be convoluted and disjointed but I think you get the picture. About time he realised exactly how and what this has added to his life. Thanks TFW, it has been a very tough few days. I think we all can relate to the destruction when the bomb drops. She just doesnt have the balls to direct it to ME. LOL the recount above was only the first couple hours of what has been a 6 year process!!! If the girlfriend is younger, he will start acting younger, listening to her tastes in music, socializing with her circle of friends, and dressing youthfully to blend in more with his new lifestyle. The 12 year old is nice to me and likes me, but one day when he was pestering me about something like a 12 year old and I told him he should not worry about what he was worrying about and instead worry about something else, like his exams, and he shot up like an arrow and said, You are right and immediately left the room. That was brilliant!! How can this phenomenon be explained? I was gone to CO when he decided. Its hardcore. My wife left me 3 monthes ago, without saying anything, leaving a marriage of 17 1/2 years. And the ugly sense of entitlement. Im seeing a lot to be worried about and no actions that are redemption based. You can do so much better. UGH. I dont know what that is right now. The most glaring way is that the wayward spouse leaves the family home and cuts all ties with the betrayed spouse and the children. She really lost her case with me there. So dont accept into your own belief system. Satori. But R aside I am focused on the $, hoping I can get him to the pointy end of signing off the financials. It may be the best thing that has happened to me since this disaster unfolded. and now the rose colored glasses are off. What a benign sounding word that conveys utter darkness to me now. I do it all. It is possible whatever thougjts he has May change after he is living on his own. Proof the OW are not positive influences. She was an expert manipulator because when I finally woke up and started to call her out, she played the victim perfectly and turned others to her side. I saw everyone around me getting married and I felt so left outlike it was for them but not for me. Once I protected myself financially (6 months from DDay1) the PTSD started to become less and less of an issue. I also had to move into my parents new house and sleep in the guest room. Being compassionate does not work. You can stay separated during an attempt to reconcile but focus on his actions at all times. Yes in the end hes my son and I love him. And I called my family the next day and told them we were divorcing. I thought if I knew my H was so unhappy for 18 months I could have done something about it. No,MLC is not a recognized medical syndrome but that doesnt mean it doesnt have a medical cause. I have an attorney and my therapist on speed dial shoukd I have even a suspicion or hint if anything I dont like. Stop trying. Thanks for checking in. He is a little fuck. This is still very new and raw for you. Now the story is that M was bad so of course implicitly H was justified. Personally, ones FOO issues is for THEM to figure out not the spouse. When is everything going to be about me? Ive been shocked at how little empathy my H has for me. I agree dint talk about OW. Went through a similar situation. Then for months everytime he muttered any sound in his sleep I would startle awake and feel all the pain wash over me again. Click here if you want to listen to the audio recording of the interview with Vikki Stark on Runaway Spouses. My situation may seem on the surface to fly in the face of what you are saying. We are driven to be part of a clan. My furry angel is the best!! She came over today (with a bottle of champagne) to let me know she wants to be friends that she loves me and misses me. He was going to visit / stay with her. Only, the voice was actually a song I had never heard before called In the Middle.. Thank you for indulging me but just putting it into a post and getting your feedback is keeping me sane. The CS has to want it otherwise the A continued with the same OW or the CS eventually finds a new OW. One my H always showed up late. My CH decided that his plan would be to tell me at the end of the summer what he wanted to do. Cant get my head around the lying thing. Second is to read some articles Regarding exit Affairs. Also code. The more I think about it, the more I feel OW was an Exit A to cement his leaving but may not be the actual and ultimate replacement of me, however that does not mean there wont be a replacement coming soon. Kind of freaking out though. It does fit right in with my new years resolution. I supported her. When I told him to leave b/c I was divorcing him he realized I was past the rational stage and he ended the A and never looked back. I admit I wanted to throw in the towel. Ive never forgiven him for that. ???? But infidelity is a non negotiable. Im thinking of calling a meeting with him to put MC or D squarely on the table and see what happens. An example would be a phone call where the spouses are discussing something mundane, and the husband will suddenly state I just cant do this anymore.. And then the runaway bride syndrome is triggered, when such a woman who has taken off before the wedding suddenly runs headlong headlong from her "evil" lot. H wont get help and thinks he has done everything in the M so is justified for his dummy spit. The mad professor feelings-cocktail me wanted to ask you if there is anything you think Im not getting as to why H is so freaking angry with me and why since he lied / cheated / abandoned me how he is even able to think / spin it this is all my fault so I deserve to be punished? SI. There has been a lot of discussion of the MLC reality even on this thread while I dont feel it is the key driver in my case, it sure felt like a factor, even if a minor one. Copyright how-what-woman.com, 2023 January | About site | Contacts | Privacy policy. MLCs shouldnt be treated any differently than any other garden variety affair. Nightmare. Its been a thing, Ill just say that. I know Im still working on accepting all that has transpired and realize that I may never fully understand why my ex did what she did. My lawyer has said I should put some distance in (NC) and he will follow up with email to secure obligations.Im still doing all my work as usual and making sure everything is airtight. Quickly smoothed it over and said Nonsense they love us both and my family loves you. Stay mentally and physically healthy. It helped. I know it will get better for you. I know he doesnt want the financial pain just even mentioning the tiniest aspect of the price of freedom (for him) sent him into the tail spin. Very good nationally recognized lawyers said that. So be prepared for the CS meltdown. But I love the honesty and rawness of TH too. But it happened. No fixing After all they are victims too!! SatoriBwahaha yes indeed he has the crap client!!! Voila DDay2. Chit chat small updates about family. How on earth would you know someone would do this? Divorce is the finality of the marriage. Apparently, I was deemed codependent also and I had suffered from bouts of general anxiety. Try not to involve him personally. She brought home fish for dinner and announced they would be eating fish. You know, we all think when we say yes to the proposal and then we say I do in the vows that this is a final thing. TFW posted earlier about the personality thing with her nephew and H where you can say something and theyll say no but they will come back to you later with the suggestion as if it was entirely their idea. I know because one of her family members told me. I am sorry you had to endure the pain and hurt at his hands. Some faster than others but its a liberating moment. TheFirstWife: wow, from what you write our situations seem very similar. We are dealing with highly emotional subject matter.we have to be able to show our emotions. Well, it all started with my great, great grandmother on my fathers side. TYPICAL cheater behavior / blame everyone else. Some runaway brides jilt their potential grooms, because most of their lives, they have always tended to run away from serious problemsthis is their way of coping with difficult challenges. I was like *lalalalalalala fingers in my ears*. But DDay2 when I found out he had been seeing her for the last 6 months AND the OW really was the reason he wanted a divorce, well he saw a side of me he wished he had not. But keeping getting out for short periods of time and try not to dwell 24/7 on your h. Hugs to you. I think thats ok. Im ready for it to be completely over or to R. But either way, thanks to the support here, Im ready. You dont like what I say ? What are the reasons forcing you to put your loved one so recently in such a humiliating position, not to mention your own and his loved ones who were preparing for the wedding and invited relatives and acquaintances to it? To extend your analogy: heres something useful I got recently from my very wise ex-Defence sibling: In my DefenceSibs way of looking at the world, there is only above the line or below the line thinking. She never took personal shots at people even if she did not understand their point of view and even if she disagreed with them. He says our M is finished and he used the D word himself in the casual meeting but there is no way to know for sure where his head is at in any way. I think you have that as part of your unique challenge an A ruins a M but can kill your business and financially ruin you as well. I decided to circumvent MIL and asked H to have dinner with me instead. But things didnt go that far. First welcome to the group to which no one ever wanted to belong. And yes some M do not survive the MLC. Ive been keeping diaries of my work for our business and of course an email trail speaks volumes too. Thank you for the great post and article! This argument of asking for a call went on 15 years until I finally stopped trying. I would have difficulty getting past that comment. At this stage, its still no R. No MC. The trouble is remember when brings a whole host of other memories. The cheaters handbook must be out there somewhere. I keep myself busy and make sure my happiness is met. She needs to repress and stuff all her feelings regarding anything to do with GoldenCHilds appalling treatment of her, just as we taught him to do since we do it with our feelings. Just trying to make you aware of the next chapter. That much I am sure. She called me and told me all this that night. So thankful! I dont talk to any friends about this I told my son she was having an affair. I saw it immediately and warned him. But only if its R. Otherwise theres no conversation to be had. It is associated with an anxious and suspicious nature, when she (he), due to personal and social reasons, is afraid to marry. Satori I spent all day contemplating and considering what you each wrote to me. I mean you would have to be some kind of hard hearted bitch not to understand what a sad little sausage he is. When I lost my father (I was 42) at the time.I grieved deeply, but I was able to move on. I dont need a label to explain character disordered behavior also known as acting like an entitled asshole. Which, BTW, I cant believe BSA brought my grandchildren into this!!!! Thing is he saw what I went thru and yet he choose the same path. Or her answers were smug and trite, in a tone of how dare you even talk to me. Yup, they are full of it when in the middle of it, Oh and also when he yelled go find someone to date!!! Hi Satori My mother passed away very suddenly about five months after d-day. Sorry to hear about your loss. I read the article. We all want to help in any way we can. For whatever reason. This was pre-DDay. I hope this little bit of my story has helped you. And NO none of you know the REAL me. Total revisionist history of the M. He disliked many things about me. The power is with you. I was contributing to our home and finances by doing it myself. Oh boy. In the meantime, bring on the calming mantras. But yeah, not so much. It took me many many years to move through the death of a person kind of grief, so I know how stuck you can get. She wanted to dig into childhood stuff but Im flat out trying to survive here. Totally understandable. The runaway spouse seamlessly slips into his or her life while the abandoned spouses life has been laid to ruin. One of Hs stated fears (this was said the previous day) is that if we reconcile, I will have him totally locked down. So crazy! They have a lot to lose. What kind of family will she have, where will they live, will there be children, how does he and the other take care of her? Things changed for him just before DDay2. Sometimes I lose track of these two major things while I let all the detail of the situation distract me and then from here I flip into worrying about the future so this pushes me into overwhelm. For example, in the Hollywood movie Runaway Bride, the main character, Maggie, ran away from under the aisle right out of the church. Id keep the conversations light and about business. Still SMH, Oh hell no Puzzled. I would practically freak out if I woke up and he wasnt in the bed. But I just know hes got to be thinking What have I done? My feeling is that he enjoys the idea that he can come back to me, it puffs up his ego that all Im waiting on is for his return. I have a spiritual coach. Me: Its not up to me to tell you, how should I know? Im happy to hear youre in better spirits and I think it may be because you have a good therapist. The, April 29 Wilbanks' relatives offered a $100,000 reward and planned vigils. I could see him bristle. You know its like being between death and living. Pigs. they cant reconcile his actions with who they thought he was. Not looking forward to it. I will never again be the same trusting person I was before all of this. Single Dadwhat great, wise and compassionate advice and words. Take me as a friend or take me as your worst effing nightmare. Your own power is in your own choices and responses. And at this point you probably just want to be done with him altogether given the havoc he has put on your life. I think we deserve better treatment by fellow betrayed spouses. And before DDay1 I would have been described as having ok self esteem. You have enough on your plate without wasting your precious energy on them at the moment. Had the great kids, house etc. I was gone for 10 days and then back home and back to work which piled up when I was gone! Doesnt seem like it to you but you got this! . You can tell they are there intact, but he cant give or receive emotions. He allowed me to delete her contacts on all platforms off his phone. I have Xero software etc etc. Thanks for tuning in. That family Ive been a close part of for 15 years that she will no doubt want to impress? Like others here, you have a BIG HEART. So if D does occur you can look back and feel you did your best and you will have no regrets. And only his actions. What we do know is that my great-grandmother grew up to be a very bitter woman who hated men. SatoriI like your take on the drama thing. You have to ignore it and let your lawyer do your talking. I was done. They must be passive (and therefore we are all aboard with passive-aggressive codependent living arrangements in our Ms) as long as the males needs gets met first and foremost and the females go along to get along regardless of what we do to them. But if he leaves the business then yes, he is out. Seems appropriate to me). Now I think I know why my H feels so entitled and was able to disrespect me by having this A. I never want to sit around a Christmas table with Hs family again even if we did R. And tonight H canceled the dinner as he is sick and had to leave work early. He was def on the fence though. Yep blood is thicker than water and the big dummy went for the shortest most despicable straw. Reconciliation is a rebuilding and a new beginning. He knew he had to make a choice. Im certain he was crying to her that you intended to wreck him financially. but Im here and shes not. Im not doing so well even though I wish I could say I was Its been years now since that day and it does ease with time but still hurts sometimes, like an old wound that is almost healed. He doesnt want to feel anything, he once told me he would wish he was dead if he got his feelings back. I dont now anything about laws in other countries other than what Ive heard about in European countries. You can stop hoping for things she has nobibtention of providing. There in lies the bigger question?? He said it frustrated him how intense I was. An auction on eBay of a slice of toast carved with a likeness of Wilbanks closed with a winning bid of $15,400.[12]. This A is a symptom. Basically it comes down to this: if you want to save your marriage, then do everything in your power to fight for it! When, for various reasons, it is not possible to engage in health-improving gymnastics, you should listen to useful advice. Firwat flchten d'Leit vun der Kroun, wat kann een an dsem Fall beroden. Blameshifting! So how is it some men have them and some dont? Its a Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde transformation. Im not sure what the statute of limitations is in my state. He was trying to soften me up. I just glanced at her and didnt even acknowledge her. We sure as heck wouldnt vent to our family or friends as we do here. He needs to chew on what is coming for a while. I can tell you it will get better. So this is where his sense of identity is shaky. Its turned that assumption on its head. He sure didnt learn HIS lesson and neither did I. I guess with age does come wisdom. I accused him of being all words and doing nothing to make amends. He tried to hug and kiss me but I was shaking with panic attack / anger. ? Aint nobody got time for that kind of talk. And if they were honest with themselves my in-laws know it too. Weird he was leading you to believe he was moving farther away. Sis emailed it to my H and sent a whole bunch from our fun times together with the four of us. 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